Torin»F«:

lets get started,,as usual please refrain from long greetings of late comers if you have to leave do so quietly...if you have a question or comment, please signify with a
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Torin»F«:

^C
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Torin»F«:

^and I will attempt to call on people in order, let us know your done by saying done,,and pretyping while waiting is helpful to keep things moving along
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Torin»F«:

^:breathes
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

smiles
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Torin»F«:

^ok tonights topic, is educating the Free
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Torin»F«:

^quite often we hear complaints about Free who dont know gor, Free who wouldnt know a mistake in a serve if the girl spilled the drink on his head,,
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

that was happening to Master Joss earlier Master.. he had to reconnect to stop it
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

the ^
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Torin»F«:

tests
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Torin»F«:

ok
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Torin»F«:

but with all that lack of knowledge out there
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Torin»F«:

how is that improved, Seems Free dont seem to be able to put egos in check to go to classes,
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Torin»F«:

sure one can read the books but, translating that to online well, its not that transparent
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Torin»F«:

we were all knew to gor once
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Torin»F«:

so what are good ways to educate the free or the free to learn
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

^C
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

^C
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Torin»F«:

kari
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

^C
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

thank you Master
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

well.. this is a serious answer with a shameless plug included.. *laughs*
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Torin»F«:

chuckles
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

we have recently in association with another home opened the Gorean Palace Learning Centre.. it is filled with information, with the idea that those new to gor may go there and learn at their own pace
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

wtihout interference.. so a stack of easily acceptable.. palace appropriate info with no egos bruised *smiles*
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Torin»F«:

:Listens
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

additionally girl has met many Free who would go to classes if they were run by Free for Free.. but those never seem to happen much.. not sure why..
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

otherwise kari thinks that a mentoring system is probably the best way to go.. with one person who takes a new Free under their wing. done
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Torin»F«:

Justar
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

I say if a f Free is not able to ask questions of other Free or just to ask questions in genral knowing He/She is New then They can watch and learn...but that doesn't mean that slaves should take
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

advantage of the situation and point it out by being unrully.
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*smiles thinking most slaves are helpful... looks sweet*
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Torin»F«:

:listens
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

or by perposely doing a serve wrong. Having said that... He/She should refrane from punishing a slave until He/She does Know
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

Done
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Torin»F«:

Kiah
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

firstly, The Free need to WANT to learn and not just 'think' cos they are capped it gives Them special Priviledges, the Free too, have work to do just as kajirae do... reading is a great start...
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Yahto~GP~:

^C
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

I wou8ld personally assist teaching if asked, but the Free should be taking Their role 'onboard' and utilising Their own decisions etc as They learn
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

it's lovely that slaves help out, but reallly, the Free should be assisting the Free
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

done
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Torin»F«:

Yahto
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Yahto~GP~:

^I myself like the idea of the mentoring ,one to one ...but I also think the initiative should come from the one new to Gor ,not gonna pamper other Free .done
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Torin»F«:

ok a couple thoughts
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Torin»F«:

one was on why arent there classes for Free
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Torin»F«:

some homes do have them
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Yahto~GP~:

...
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Torin»F«:

but in my experience
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Torin»F«:

they are not well attended
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Torin»F«:

so often people give up on them
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

^C
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Torin»F«:

the gorean learning palace is a good idea, but if I was a betting man I will bet you it will be slaves going through that in a ratio 10-1
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Torin»F«:

now one thing I have seen that does work
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Torin»F«:

is to have classes for slaves, as many homes do
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Torin»F«:

but to encourage the free to "sit in" the promo being, so you can see what slaves are being taught
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Torin»F«:

ok Kiah
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

perhaps a new Free member 'might' feel intimidated by being helped... I dunno
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

done
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Torin»F«:

thinks
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

^C
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Torin»F«:

ok whhile I think, kari go ahead
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

yes Master, thank you
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Yahto~GP~:

Kis had C up too ,grinn
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Torin»F«:

ohhh
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Kiswahili <JF> CA:

Nope, not me.
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

hehe
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Torin»F«:

one thing I know I dont like about p4 is the c's fade
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Yahto~GP~:

lol true
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Torin»F«:

go ahead kari
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

girl thinks that free are regular people.. and all new comers that join a place where everyone knows each other well tend to feel a bit overwhelmed or intimidated
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

even Free..
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

:agrees
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

so that when they do come in it's a bit daunting to ask a stranger for help as such.. i think when they admit they are new and learning it would be nice if other Free offered assistance..
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

^C
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

but most times kari sees it is only slaves offering.. and that is not really appropriate .. or ideal.. .. she has taken several Free to the Gorean Palace Learning Centre and they have found it helpful
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

done
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Torin»F«:

there were two ways where I learned the most when I was new
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Torin»F«:

both involved the experience free leading by example
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Torin»F«:

one weakness of a lot of palaces, including Focus at times
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

^C
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Torin»F«:

is when someone pops in often there isnt a lot gorean going on
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Torin»F«:

lots of chit chat about real life
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Torin»F«:

because we know each other well and those are valid topics
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Torin»F«:

but how I learned at first
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*smiles to aya in silent greeting*
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Torin»F«:

was at a city sitting in a gorean tavern
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Torin»F«:

seeing all the serving and interaction between free, between free and slaves etc.
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Torin»F«:

watching taking a lot in
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Torin»F«:

I know later, I used to when there were new free around
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Torin»F«:

make a point to kind of put a bit more narrative behind things
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Torin»F«:

explain what blackwine is for example
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

^C
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Torin»F«:

explain why this happened or that
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Torin»F«:

my overall point is
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Torin»F«:

if we dont do gorean things enough in our homes, how do we expect anyoen to learn by visiting us
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Torin»F«:

kari
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

Master.. the Mistress of Nyoki and the Master Physician were before me
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Torin»F«:

ok I cant see the cs
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*smiles*
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Torin»F«:

who was next
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

the Mistress then the Master, Master
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

Kiah
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

^C
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Torin»F«:

ok Kiah go ahead
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

just a tad difficult for a FW to offer asssistance to a new FM, perhaps vice versa too, but having a place to recommend would be ideal, or having an open place to teach maybe... it's still all up to .
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{dayeah}»F«:

day doesnt see them ether Master
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

I wasn't gunna untype all that to answer that q
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

lol
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Torin»F«:

smiles
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

the new Free anyways
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

done
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Torin»F«:

Yoshi
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

being new to gor i do not mind lerning from a slave or a free or reading but being the kind open heart person i am i think is the only resan that i do not mind that.i do think there should be more green cast avis tho lol :) and i agree ,,,
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{dayeah}»F«:

oo makes note
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{dayeah}»F«:

smiles
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*grins*
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

^C
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

that manny homes do not do gorean much
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

^C
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

that they are more on the r/t than gor
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

done
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Torin»F«:

ok I think kari is next
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

thank you Master
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

nods to Yoshi
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

FoS is much the same as most homes on Palace.. we sit and chat in general or real life.. we always maintain strict protocol in regards to our status those.. slaves always slaves and respecting Free
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

however.. when a person we don't know visits.. the first thing we do is usually ask them questions about themselves to get to know them.. including.. are they new to palace or new to Gor
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Torin»F«:

chuckles,, aye the interview
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

-nods-
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Yahto~GP~:

the first degree interrogation,grinn
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

and if the answer to either or both is yes.. then we start to take on the role of educating abit.. *grins to Master Physician knowing he's been a victi..uuumm recipient of that*
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

(laffs loud)
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

but that is also part of FoS's charter.. to help educate those in Gor or Palace
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*grins and winks to him*
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

done
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

^C
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Torin»F«:

when I was new to palace I used to want to keep a txt file handy to answer all the interogation questions when I visited somewhere new to save typing
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Torin»F«:

LOL
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Torin»F«:

Justar
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*laughs*
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

lol
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Yahto~GP~:

hahaha
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

(lol i do have that)
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

^C
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

I think it would be Helpful to have a designated Hitter so to speek on the interviews and the teaching of a New One to Gor or Palace for that Matter.
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

Having said that there is nothing Wrong with a Free seeking a Trainer or Mentoir
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Justar~Fo§~SC:

Done
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Torin»F«:

Kiah
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

I believe We have a wonderful community here, and, all the tools for teaching and learning are easily accessable
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

if not here already
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

done
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Torin»F«:

I think the Mentoring concept is a good one
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Torin»F«:

though often that happens in an informal way
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

nods
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Torin»F«:

as in no one ever said,,I'm your mentor etc
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

^C
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Torin»F«:

for example I consider two free as my early mentors
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Torin»F«:

they both kinda knew it
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Torin»F«:

but we never called it that
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

nods
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Torin»F«:

one would explain things to me, even let me know when I was doing something wrong
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Torin»F«:

like I remember me using the word jashi in chat
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Torin»F«:

and he whispers me and says,,where did you learn that
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Torin»F«:

I told him, and he said,,well stop learning things there cause thats an onlineism
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

I think I got a lil bit of everyone all rolled into one
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Torin»F«:

LOL
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

lol
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

oooops
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

darn keys
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Torin»F«:

another as here on palace
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[7:45:30 PM]

Torin»F«:

when I was new, Vagabond use to have training almost daily of slaves in his home
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[7:45:37 PM]

Torin»F«:

I used to sit there every morning and just watch
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Torin»F«:

and sometimes ask questions later
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[7:46:06 PM]

Torin»F«:

again, kind of a mentor but never officially but in the end I learned a lot
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[7:46:09 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

smiles
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[7:46:11 PM]

Torin»F«:

ok who is next
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

kari i belive
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*whispers* mmmmmeeee Master.. lol
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[7:46:34 PM]

Torin»F«:

kari
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

lol
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

thank you Master :)
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[7:46:59 PM]

Torin»F«:

is my first try at discussion with p4, and there is definitly a hitch I gotta work out LOL
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[7:47:28 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

lol "Ceeing" not much :p
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

when girl first started in palace it was at a very large home that had up to 30 members.. and there they had a formalised mentoring process..
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

where each FM of the home would take a new FM under their wing and teach them... girl thinks that is why the home grew so large.. we offered rooms to rent to none members.. and the FM taught other FM
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

done
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Torin»F«:

nods
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

**non members
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Torin»F«:

ok any other c's I dont see
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[7:48:40 PM]

Torin»F«:

if not lets gouch on another point
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[7:48:44 PM]

Torin»F«:

touch
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[7:48:58 PM]

Torin»F«:

is this "theory"
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[7:49:04 PM]

Torin»F«:

that Free need to teach other Free
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[7:49:20 PM]

Torin»F«:

and would be ungorean for slaves to teach free
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[7:49:43 PM]

Torin»F«:

but I bet you every slave in this room, has answered questions, helped Free many many times
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[7:50:08 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

*whispers* guide is prolly a better word to use
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[7:50:09 PM]

Torin»F«:

in fact right or wrong, I think many new to gor Free are more likely to ask a slave
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[7:50:32 PM]

Torin»F«:

yes Kiah, answer questions, guide
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[7:50:41 PM]

Torin»F«:

suggest Free to ask on some things
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[7:50:53 PM]

Torin»F«:

but slaves need to walk a line there
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[7:50:57 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

smiles
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[7:51:00 PM]

Torin»F«:

on one hand being helpful
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[7:51:11 PM]

Torin»F«:

but correcting a Free can be a problem
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[7:51:22 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

and not become a wiseass either...
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[7:51:24 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

nods
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Torin»F«:

yes
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[7:51:33 PM]

Torin»F«:

a good example
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[7:51:39 PM]

Torin»F«:

New Free
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[7:51:47 PM]

Torin»F«:

has somewhere heard the term "blackwine"
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[7:52:06 PM]

Torin»F«:

starts roleplaying he is getting drunk from the blackwine
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[7:52:14 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

^C
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[7:52:19 PM]

Torin»F«:

now a slave could say
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[7:52:23 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

grins*teaching mode * it is black wine ,two words :p
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Torin»F«:

it in an embarrising way and correct him
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[7:53:05 PM]

{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*listens*
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Torin»F«:

or perhaps ask a question like "Master, did you know black wine (looks at Yahto), is very similiar to coffee on earth?
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Torin»F«:

Kiah
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

I guess a Home having a general topicc for the day or week coul\d help some, that way conversation on something is open
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

done
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[7:54:09 PM]

Torin»F«:

ok girls am I wrong, but dont a lot of new free whisper slaves a LOT to get explanations of stuff?
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{dayeah}»F«:

yes Master
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[7:54:29 PM]

{dayeah}»F«:

They do
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

i wisper them as well:)
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{dayeah}»F«:

smiles
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

^c
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Torin»F«:

yes topics, discussions are good plan Kiah
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

yes Master they do
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[7:55:04 PM]

Torin»F«:

Yoshi
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[7:55:12 PM]

Torin»F«:

:smiles up to raya
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

ahh one of those people I get annoyed with, chuckles...
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{soraya}Torin»F«:

:waves to Him
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[7:55:37 PM]

Torin»F«:

scootch in
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{ãkira}ÐF«Fo§»:

^q
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Torin»F«:

:listens to Yoshi
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[7:56:04 PM]

Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

i think that in my place i wisper to a slave rather than ask open caz of pride and not wanting to look like a well a noob lol but i think its esayer to talk to a slave and ask them qs than it would be of a free
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[7:56:21 PM]

{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*smiles*
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

done
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[7:56:33 PM]

Torin»F«:

akira
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{ãkira}ÐF«Fo§»:

girl has seen instances where a Free who claims to have been gorean for a long time is giving out information that is incorrect to a new Free.. is there any suggestions how to handle that situation...
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{ãkira}ÐF«Fo§»:

please? done
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[7:57:02 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

C
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[7:57:06 PM]

Torin»F«:

Yahto
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

^C
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Yahto~GP~:

Well ,my advise is to always check what someone tells you ,even those long time Goreans might have stick to their own believes of what it should be - done
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[7:58:19 PM]

Torin»F«:

kari
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[7:58:24 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

...
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[7:58:24 PM]

{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

thank you Master
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[7:58:47 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

^C
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

this is not a suggestion. just wished to add to the think tank. . that most Free she meets who are new, are open and honest about it..
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

but sometimes there are those who are very obviously new yet deny it totally.. so that makes it really hard to help them without being offensive.. not sure what can be done there.. done
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Torin»F«:

Kiah
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

*while imagining Yoshi thrown iinto the slave pits so He can learn all He likes there* *chuckles* I have never felt much at all by answering questions for a Free, it would be nice if they understood
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

We are not here to intimidate
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

^C
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[8:01:29 PM]

Justar~Fo§~SC:

^C
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[8:01:30 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

hehe
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[8:01:33 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

only to look after What's Ours
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

done
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[8:01:38 PM]

Torin»F«:

Yoshi
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[8:02:46 PM]

Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

as i would not like that ..lol .. i have seen some free in my serch for a home that are not at all nice to some one who asks a q
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[8:03:12 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

chuckles
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[8:03:13 PM]

Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

they mock ppl as that they are better for they know more
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[8:03:23 PM]

Torin»F«:

:nods
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[8:04:15 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

nods
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

but when u ask a slave they are respect you with a ell writen answer and no drama lol if you know what i mean lol.. i have asked manny free qs and alot are not mean or rude just a few are :) done
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[8:04:32 PM]

Torin»F«:

Justar
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[8:04:57 PM]

Justar~Fo§~SC:

to answer akiras question If another Free sees that the teachings are obisously out in left feils then it is Up to the Free to correct the situation as fast as possable without Jumping all over the
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[8:05:35 PM]

Justar~Fo§~SC:

Free that is trying to Teach.
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[8:05:40 PM]

Justar~Fo§~SC:

Done
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

^Q
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Torin»F«:

and if there is no other free there it is indeed a sticky situation for the slave as she should not contradict the "wrong" free
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[8:06:12 PM]

Torin»F«:

Yoshi
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Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

.
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[8:06:30 PM]

Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

you answer it lol
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Torin»F«:

oh ok
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Torin»F«:

any other thoughts on the topic tonight?
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[8:06:45 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

^C
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[8:06:46 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

C
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[8:06:52 PM]

Torin»F«:

Kiah
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.Relius¤FC¤Kiah¤Ñ¥¶¤CA:

yahoo LOve\
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[8:07:10 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

then shakes head a lil, eventually, We are all in same boat... just different ranks or objectives, so I don't see any need for premature judgements, especially on new Free
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[8:07:11 PM]

{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*smiles to the Master CA of Nyoki in silent welcome*
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[8:07:14 PM]

.Relius¤FC¤Kiah¤Ñ¥¶¤CA:

Tal and Greets
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[8:07:23 PM]

Torin»F«:

:nods and smiles to Relius
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

Tal Love
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[8:07:38 PM]

.Relius¤FC¤Kiah¤Ñ¥¶¤CA:

Love yahoo
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Torin»F«:

ok done Kiah
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Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

nods
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[8:07:54 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

done
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[8:07:54 PM]

Torin»F«:

Yahto
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[8:08:33 PM]

.Relius¤FC¤Kiah¤Ñ¥¶¤CA:

We are needed Home
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[8:08:39 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

I think most important is to do alot on self education ,not always rely onwhat others say *done*
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[8:08:39 PM]

.Relius¤FC¤Kiah¤Ñ¥¶¤CA:

be well A/all
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[8:08:43 PM]

.Relius¤FC¤Kiah¤Ñ¥¶¤CA:

Honor
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[8:08:44 PM]

Torin»F«:

:nods to Relius
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.Relius¤FC¤Kiah¤Ñ¥¶¤CA:

Byes
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{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*smile farewell to the Master and Mistress*
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[8:09:01 PM]

Torin»F«:

ok anyone else?
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[8:09:08 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

Be Well Relius
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[8:09:14 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

Be Well Kiah
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[8:09:22 PM]

{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

^C
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[8:09:24 PM]

Justar~Fo§~SC:

Nods in agreement
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Torin»F«:

kari
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[8:09:31 PM]

Torin»F«:

just slide in
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[8:09:31 PM]

{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

thank you Master
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[8:09:33 PM]

{soraya}Torin»F«:

wishes well Mistress
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[8:10:02 PM]

Kiah¤FC¤Relius¤Ñ¥¶¤:

ok, I am being 'told' lol, well wishes to All *waves*
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[8:10:16 PM]

Torin»F«:

:waves to Kiah
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[8:10:24 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

go imagine that, FW in the sleenpit ,Yoshi,grinn
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[8:10:26 PM]

{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

one thing that kari does always point out to newbies.. is that if they are researching information from the web to keep to sources that quote that books..
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[8:10:34 PM]

{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

in an attempt to get accurate info, not onlinisms... done
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[8:10:39 PM]

Torin»F«:

ok thanks all for coming same time same place next week.
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[8:11:03 PM]

Yahto~GP~:

Ty again Torin for hosting :-)
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[8:11:07 PM]

{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

*laughs to Master of Genesian*
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[8:11:15 PM]

Yøšhí• ÐTC• Physician:

TY Torin
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[8:11:15 PM]

Justar~Fo§~SC:

Aye Great topic
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[8:11:25 PM]

{dayeah}»F«:

thank You Master
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[8:11:31 PM]

{lalita}Yahto~GP~:

thank You Master
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[8:11:33 PM]

{karimah}Å«Fo§»:

thank you Master of Focus.. that was a great discussion and has kari thinking of a suggestion for her Master for Gorean Palaces
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